tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post3024343056261449188..comments2008-12-09T07:00:24.309-05:00Aberdeenerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-88975712773561637912008-12-09T07:00:00.000-05:002008-12-09T07:00:00.000-05:00Keeny, UC and Kimsmom agree with each other on everything and whoever disagrees is wrong. They are hatefull, angry, bitter little people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-59152047944195640872008-12-07T19:22:00.000-05:002008-12-07T19:22:00.000-05:00I have to agree. Someone comes on here to let off steam and their concerns are not popular with the "regulars" and SO THEY ARE WRONG?...??..<BR/><BR/>Of course KennyCB and Nsection agree- they always do. I am sorry, it is just an observation. Kenny, for the type of house the FED UP guy explained, I would be mad too that my taxes went up about 1300 bucks. That is 108 dollars a month and thats alot for anyone- <BR/><BR/>AND DONT FORGET THIS IS ALL BEFORE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET and our NEW SAVIOR of a President starts his socialist taxes......... GOOD LUCK.<BR/>Anyone think the School Budget will pass this year? Oh my God - LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-40501370114789050542008-12-07T10:55:00.000-05:002008-12-07T10:55:00.000-05:00People on this site are so funny. Really! Comment after comment, they berate other people for complaining, with no self awareness at all that their put down comes off with a very whining tone! RAOTFLMAO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-41722892665822291742008-12-07T09:00:00.000-05:002008-12-07T09:00:00.000-05:00Please hang tight. I wasn't expecting the reval numbers till next week and just got the preliminary assessment roll on Friday.<BR/><BR/>I hope to post today about the revaluations. In the meantime, keep in mind that the average assessment rose by a factor of 2.47.<BR/><BR/>If your new assessment is more than 2.47 times higher than the old one, your taxes are increasing. If not, your taxes are NOT rising due to the revaluations.Aberdeenerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-82052400073638719292008-12-07T07:20:00.000-05:002008-12-07T07:20:00.000-05:00Reevaluations are going on in lots of towns. My sister-in-law had her reevaluation and the taxes went up a good amount as well. It's not just Aberdeen. I don't understand why you keep swearing to yourselves that Aberdeen is the only town doing this. Start doing outside research. When I read this thing I went right to my brother and sister-in-law who live in Ocean County. It's something most towns are doing.<BR/><BR/>Start going to meetings and start getting the facts. Stop complaining and making yourself crazy by blogging and not taking charge. Get yourself over to a council meeting and demand ansnwers. Stop sitting here waiting for the town to come to you; it won't happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-55213766716223910952008-12-07T06:09:00.000-05:002008-12-07T06:09:00.000-05:00Aberdeener-you seem very informed with this whole situation going on...i am one of the idiots that lives in town and i blame myself for not knowing too much of what has been going on for years. Do you feel going to this meeting on Tuesday will help? Do you think asking for a reappraisal will help? I am currently assessed at $100,000 of course I know thats very low but whose fault is it that NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF PEOPLE LOSING JOBS I AM ASSESSED AT $250,000? my taxes before eval were $5200 for cliffwood? I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW LONG IT WILL BE BEFORE I LOSE MY HOUSE I'M SURE THE TAXES ON MY PROPERTY WILL SKYROCKET TO WHAT $7000, $8000 BECAUSE WHOEVER DIDN'T DO THESE RE-EVALS ON A MORE CONSISTENT BASIS?? THEY ARE GONNA DRIVE THE POOR WORKING SLOBS OUT OF THIS TOWN?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-28564511999243322892008-12-07T05:30:00.000-05:002008-12-07T05:30:00.000-05:00Fed up and anonymous you kind of answered your own questions. I for one appreciate the breakdown that Nsectionjoe gave since he was on both sides and paid on both sides. <BR/><BR/>While I pay a mortgage on my home and its value is fair according to my new reevaluation where were the complaints when a house like mine that I bought for $115,000.00 was selling in the good market for $220,000.00 not so long ago. Were the two of you complaining then? Of course not and rightly so. In the same respect we cannot blame those like Nsection for paying more in taxes , mortgages and more, that is how it works. So to complain now is somewhat laughable and of course no one wants to pay more. The reevaluations were done and had to be done around every ten years, so in a way some paid more than they should have and some paid less. While I am no big fan of government I believe there is a true balance coming and yes taxes go up and down for all. <BR/><BR/>As for fed up and his assertion that the homes are nicer in Strathmore with nicer roads, what is it with roads and curbs being the basis for most things being fair. My brother lives in the W section and his road was paved like many others in Strathmore when the homes were built, in 1964. I understand the curb and sidewalk thing but far more needs to play into your complaints that homes are bigger and nicer and on that basis you should pay less and they should pay more. Those houses are nicer and they cost more all along the way in mortgages, taxes and more. It is not class warfare it is LIFE. <BR/><BR/>I am happy with my home on my side of town and I do not begrudge those who have paid their fair share. Give any thought that maybe we have under paid? <BR/><BR/>With the new president and his socialist ideology wait until you see what he has planned for all of us. I for one am tired of paying for those who on a generational basis maintain a woe is me type of life and fail to contribute to society and the economy. That is the big picture but it is coming for all of us. Soon the reevaluation will be the least of our worries. It is just the topic of the moment.KennyCBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-74366418552037855982008-12-06T20:18:00.000-05:002008-12-06T20:18:00.000-05:00These assessments were done before the housing bubble burst. None of these reevaluations are valid now. Real estate values are plummeting, unemployment is rising, no one's job is safe and Aberdeen raises our taxes! I hope Aberdeen realizes that they will have to take all this extra revenue and feed us with it. Can you say soup kitchens? Can you say abandoned houses? Can you say ruination? What folly!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-78415062751702735942008-12-06T19:26:00.000-05:002008-12-06T19:26:00.000-05:00I am sorry. I would like to see the condos, townhomes, and apartment complexes breakdown of tax assessment too - I mean what they contribute.<BR/><BR/>NSection- you kind of agreed with me - though trying to refute what I said. You had a 3 bedroom with a good size yard. I have a 1 arguably 2 bedroom home on a 50 x 100 lot and now I pay 5700? How is that fair? Tax assessments based on home value is part of the formula - yes but to be honest homes on the other side of Aberdeen are nicer and BIGGER than mine are WORTH MORE and therefore they pay more. Plus there are nicer roads on your side of town, curbs, and underground power lines. I am not making it a civil war of Aberdeen - but be fair - Strathmore and Cliffwood Beach are apples and oranges - no comparison in area and now I explained the size of my home which resembles few houses like that in Aberdeen. Agree? 5700 bux in CLIFFWOOD BEACH? ONE BEDROOM? c'monfed upnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-78236845798844059122008-12-06T17:04:00.000-05:002008-12-06T17:04:00.000-05:00Face THE TRUTH anonymous Kauff slaves. <BR/><BR/>Sobel is trying to not have the reevaluation not take effect so they can not have that hanging over the leeches that are running for office. <BR/><BR/>Is that simple enough moron. <BR/><BR/>Call Kauff and find out what you are supposed to right next. <BR/><BR/>As for the tax guy from the county coming it is probably been requested by our town tax person as to have the community better understand the process. This in spite of Sobel politicizing the process. Like the water tower/cel tower thing the council knew they would lose that from the start they just were able to have big legal fees charged off on the taxpayers that funnel back to the democratic party campaign fund. THE TRUTH ONCE AGAIN! <BR/><BR/>As for GET A GRIP. Aberdeen is not Disney World and its leadership who remains so silent in the face of our proofs and accusations is all the proof many of us need. Keep thinking that only 3 or 4 of us keep this blog going. <BR/><BR/>How many votes made the difference last election? This election THE TRUTH will be the only factor and will send all of them, except maybe Tagliarini packing. <BR/><BR/>REALITY BITES KAUFF ON THE ASS NEXT ELECTION DAY. POSITIVELY !KennyCBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-30237854456687363822008-12-06T16:54:00.000-05:002008-12-06T16:54:00.000-05:00Then don't read it anymore. It is something the town HAS to do; get it through your thick skull.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-39560602179584259762008-12-06T16:26:00.000-05:002008-12-06T16:26:00.000-05:00So let me understand this, we had our reevals now because i is a non-election year you people said in earlier blogs. Now they are appealing it because it is an election year next year? Get a grip people, do they do anything right? If anyone would bother to show up to the town council meetings you would know how to appeal it because it was discussed at the last two meetings. They have also set up time on Tuesday to meet with the county tax guy to go over the re-evals. EVERYTHING IS NOT A CONSIPRACY PEOPLE! IT'S A SHAME THAT 3 OR 4 PEOPLE MAKE ME NOT WANT TO READ THIS BLOG ANYMORE. Keep up the good work Joey Warren I do believe you are an assest to this comunity, it is a shae that 3 or 4 of these people can not be fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-62302429344940197132008-12-06T14:16:00.000-05:002008-12-06T14:16:00.000-05:00The breakdown Nsection gave us is a eye opener. While I understand the reevaluation process and its level of fairness in these economic times it will hurt many in Aberdeen. What it may also do is spread things out to those whom may have in fact been underpaying. <BR/><BR/>I for one would like to see the apartment, condos, town homes and the like pay a larger share. I am uncertain of the tax numbers on apartment complexes and the like I would think that most of all would be a fairer distribution of taxes due to density and profit by owners. We shall see. I plan on attending the reevaluation presentation.EdgeviewTed07noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-45665020184014781412008-12-06T13:39:00.000-05:002008-12-06T13:39:00.000-05:00As a former resident of Cliffwood Beach who now resides in the N Section of Aberdeen I can assure you what has occurred is that a fairer distribution of property evaluations has taken place and is based on numerous factors. While I paid taxes in Cliffwood Beach from 1993 to 1998 on my 3 bedroom home with a good sized yard I paid an average of $3500.00 during that period annually. Upon moving to my present home I immediately paid $6500.00 which has grown to $8500.00 annually since then for a house 1/3 larger and a yard 1/2 larger. I have been on both sides of the coin and while my house is larger my services from the town have remained exactly the same. I still have police, fire, DPW, Sanitation and all the rest. <BR/><BR/>What people need to understand is that yes you can in fact appeal your taxes. But what you need to do first is find out the breakdown of your taxes, which will give you a better idea of Aberdeen's set costs and in which direction to place your anger. <BR/><BR/>15% of your total tax bill goes for all of your municipal services police, fire, DPW, municipal offices and departments, anitation, Bd.of Health and more. <BR/><BR/>70% goes to the school district. Need I say anything else. And of course children must and will be educated but the spending formula and more is wrong from Governor Corzine's office to every school in the state. <BR/><BR/>The rest is various fees, county taxes and the like. <BR/><BR/>Do not scream and yell about your taxe. Take the time to yell and scream at the breakdown percentages and where your money goes. Yell at the indecent spending by the school district which adds $350.00 annually to your taxes alone. <BR/><BR/>Get mad, get very mad but place your anger on those to whom have cost you the most. <BR/><BR/>The out of control spending in the past by this school district is the root cause for our tax problem, for the most part.NsectionJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-88653511572572478532008-12-06T09:24:00.000-05:002008-12-06T09:24:00.000-05:00GOT MY RE-EVALUATION. Oh my god. For a small house in Cliffwood Beach, my taxes went up 1300 dollars. Was paying 4400 - now 5675.... Which is fine if I actaully had a real home.<BR/><BR/>I have a one bed room (depends if you count a second)- on a 50 x 100 lot with no room big enough to have a party of 6 or 7- no curbs - above the ground power lines - crappy roads- a flooding road- a dilapidated old nursing home which now some sort of quasi-school for boys near by and I go up 1300 in the worst economic times in 70 years...... I know others pay more than me but THEY ALSO OWN MORE THAN ME....<BR/><BR/>They really just want people to pick up and move out, huh? or do the new American thing and leave the key on the counter and walk out.<BR/><BR/>This is absurd. NOT GRADUAL. NOT OVER 3 years. ALL IN ONE YEAR.<BR/><BR/>Let us see who is honest. Did anyone's go down?fed upnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-81932439537143460512008-12-06T08:54:00.000-05:002008-12-06T08:54:00.000-05:00You people think this is the only town that HAS to do this. You have ABSOLUTELY no idea at all what's going on. Let's think the city council lives in Aberdeen as well, do you really think they want to have this done? GOSH get real; do you think they're made of money? Check other towns out and stop bitching....go move to Matawan where they've become bankrupt and their taxes are absurd. GO KAUFF GO KAUFF GO SOBEL GO SOBEL AND GO CITY COUNCIL...You people get what you deserve...finally it's coming...I hope you have to pay a ton of money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-42837511027024090522008-12-06T06:09:00.000-05:002008-12-06T06:09:00.000-05:00Does anyone know how we appeal these insane appraisals and where? Mr. Aberdeener when is the next council meeting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-22625619482808085142008-12-06T06:03:00.000-05:002008-12-06T06:03:00.000-05:00SO BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE RE EVALUATIONS SINCE ??? NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION ALL THE TAX PAYING RESIDENTS OF ABERDEEN GET SCREWED? I PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR ALL THE LOW INCOME AND WELFARE RECIPIENTS ANYMORE? NO MORE FREE LUNCHES FOR KIDS WHOSE PARENTS WORK OFF THE BOOKS-DRIVE BRAND NEW CARS ETC...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-61492817710504493652008-12-05T21:08:00.000-05:002008-12-05T21:08:00.000-05:00Forget the reevaluations. Read the newspaper today and see that Mayor Sobel at the direction of the puppet master of course Norman Kauff is trying to delay the reevaluation change in taxes until 2010. <BR/><BR/>WHY? OK it is very simple ELECTION and COUNCIL CONTROL. <BR/><BR/>Much like Middletown and the serious trouble their tax person got into by stalling the reevaluation for political purposes our local genius Mayor Sobel is trying to pull a fast one and hang out tax person out to dry. Nice low life move Mayor Sobel and all of the rest of you. <BR/><BR/>Where is the Attorney General. <BR/><BR/>Once again the Kauff-Failthful are all BLAH BLAH BLAH.<BR/><BR/>THE TRUTH IS COMING AND EVERY TAXPAYER WILL KNOW THE TRUTH. <BR/><BR/>Next Blah blah blah step on up to the plate. Strike one. Strike two. <BR/>Strike three Kauff and his crew are <BR/><BR/>OOOOOOOOO UUUUUUUUUU TTTTTT!BaseballfanATnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-19486018664856365892008-12-05T19:23:00.000-05:002008-12-05T19:23:00.000-05:00DID ANYONE COME HOME TODAY AND GET THE NICE LETTER TELLING YOU HOW MUCH YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-60531615755520003842008-12-05T19:19:00.000-05:002008-12-05T19:19:00.000-05:00Anyone aware of what is going on with re-evaluations??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-78730415323896312962008-12-05T18:37:00.000-05:002008-12-05T18:37:00.000-05:00If you all hate the town so much than maybe you should run for council or get out of the town. You have NO idea what goes on behind closed doors and you know nothing about the town. You all can say you have FACTS FACTS FACTS but truth betold you're jealous idiots who have nothing better to do than BASH PEOPLE. If you want something to be done than show up to the council meetings and make the change you want to see. I hope you ALL get something you DESERVE. You lowlives...<BR/><BR/>And the Brown Acid...STUPID STUPID STUPID, but I guess that goes with the person who made the statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-31998965291893726162008-12-05T17:56:00.000-05:002008-12-05T17:56:00.000-05:00Right on Ted. <BR/><BR/>Drapkin doesn't get printing work? Kauff is just a fundraiser?Sobel doesn't want a job in the county to boost his pension? <BR/><BR/>Give me a F'n break. <BR/><BR/>All three of these leeches get money (legal and otherwise) and every one of them knows it. <BR/><BR/>So............ <BR/><BR/><BR/>When Sobel gets his job and Norman gets indicted, and when Drapkin gets his next printing job from public or private concerns (CME ring a bell?) you can kiss my a.. <BR/><BR/>By the way the brown acid thing was F'n funny! Right Norm?KennyCBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-17185239799957817272008-12-05T16:45:00.000-05:002008-12-05T16:45:00.000-05:00After my last posting several anonymous posters left what can only be described as the most ludicrous and idiotic suggestions that Norman Kauff and his council and all the other scum are all on the up and up. <BR/><BR/>I warn you like they did during WOODSTOCK. <BR/><BR/>STOP TAKING THE BROWN ACID. <BR/><BR/>Get real you idiots. Kauff and his scum have been proven to be corrupt merely by their silence against this blog and the information provided on it. <BR/><BR/>So to all of you KAUFFLOVERS just GET A LIFE. Better yet start planning on how to stop THE CAMPAIGN OF TRUTH. <BR/><BR/>NEXT KAUFF supporter step up and spew your BLAH BLAH BLAH !EdgeviewTed07noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-29565846682116371872008-12-05T15:43:00.000-05:002008-12-05T15:43:00.000-05:00I'm surprised anyone would still claim that we have not provided any evidence of shenanigans in the township. <BR/><BR/>To the anonymous person who requested proof, please peruse the blog and, if you can't find what you're looking for, I'll try to help you.<BR/><BR/>Regarding the Responsible Contractor's Ordinance in Matawan, it's nothing but a sop to the construction unions and will increase the borough's cost for capital and maintenance projects.Aberdeenerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.com