tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post5713066546876666698..comments2023-12-21T15:01:42.037-05:00Comments on Aberdeener: Affordable Housing for the RichUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-374407673342920272009-01-12T11:39:00.000-05:002009-01-12T11:39:00.000-05:00I think I understand your position. In the future,...I think I understand your position. In the future, I'll try to be clear that my beef is with the council and not the professionals who have been hired to speak on their behalf. <BR/><BR/>Your point is well made.Aberdeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-69390119800948030802009-01-12T10:53:00.000-05:002009-01-12T10:53:00.000-05:00By the way - if CME is really overbilling the Town...By the way - if CME is really overbilling the Township, there is no excuse for that. <BR/><BR/>In my opinion, allegations of overbilling by a Township professional should be a topic of discussion. Absent that, or some other allegation of impropriety, I don't feel personal attacks of the Township's professionals is appropriate if they are apparently doing a good job.<BR/><BR/>Just my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-34427323140030735542009-01-12T10:45:00.000-05:002009-01-12T10:45:00.000-05:00I am not the original anonymous writer (from 4 pos...I am not the original anonymous writer (from 4 posts ago), so my issue may not necessarily be their issue. <BR/><BR/>Just a point of clarification though with regard to what was my comment you just responded to. (2 posts ago)<BR/><BR/>You write: "You feel Coppola's public pronouncements are his personal professional opinions and I believe they are a reflection of the council's desires."<BR/><BR/>This is not correct. I do not feel Coppola's public pronouncements are his personal professional opinions. (Although there is no way for me to actually know)<BR/><BR/>It is my opinion that the opinion's he gives are probably the opinion's of his client which would be the Township Council.<BR/><BR/>You say you have no issue with Mr. Coppola or Mr. Leckstein. If that is the case, why do you continually bash them personally. What are they supposed to do if they disagree with the Township's positions? Should they refuse to work for the Council and quit? Or should they do their best to protect their client's interests?<BR/><BR/>It would be one thing if the issue they were being asked to promote was illegal, then they would both have ethical duties to report the matter to the authorities. When the issue is gray however and rise from a more political source (such as the cell tower case you just referred to), I personally think we are better off having them advocate the question to the best of their abilities rather than having them walk off the job and leaving us without any professionals.<BR/><BR/>We live in a political word. Disagreements happen. Feel free to take as many jabs at elected officials you wish, they are elected after all and subject to public commentary. I just take issue when you start personally attacking an individual who, by your own admission, you have no actual qualms with and who you apparently believe are actually giving proper advice. <BR/><BR/>With your most recent comments, your constant personal attacks make no sense.<BR/><BR/>I'll acknowledge for the sake of this message that I happen to be a licensed Professional Planner, so I happen to have first hand experience with having clients whose goals you might not always 100% agree with. How many of us are fortunate to have jobs where we always agree with our bosses? I doubt there are many.<BR/><BR/>So I hope you can appreciate why I am reacting to your personal attacks against Mr. Coppola. It just isn't right. If your beef is with the Council, then keep it with the Council and stay away from personal insults against the individuals they employ.<BR/><BR/>Just my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-36431912274201179842009-01-12T10:19:00.000-05:002009-01-12T10:19:00.000-05:00Ah, now I understand the argument. You feel Coppol...Ah, now I understand the argument. You feel Coppola's public pronouncements are his personal professional opinions and I believe they are a reflection of the council's desires. <BR/><BR/>I have no issue with Coppola or Leckstein as professionals. However, it's my understanding that their public statements and positions are in accordance with the council's wishes. I can't think of a single instance in which they stated something in the public record that was contrary to the council's plans. <BR/><BR/>I'll give some examples.<BR/><BR/>It's my understanding that Leckstein informed the township in private that we would likely lose our challenge to the cell tower but that the township wanted him to use every means to fight so as to show the public that the council was fighting for them. <BR/><BR/>In November, 2007, Coppola's objections to the zoning changes were posted on the township website. <BR/><BR/>Then, in August, I was given private assurances by a council member that the developments would never be approved. <BR/><BR/>Then, a few months later, the applicant's name changes to Ciffeli and Coppola suddenly supports the project in the name of COAH, with the council's blessing. Nobody, from the council to the professionals, referenced any of the prior objections. <BR/><BR/>I believe Coppola was told the council wanted these projects and dutifully supported them. <BR/><BR/>Again, my attacks on Coppola and Leckstein are based solely on the belief that their public statements reflect the council's positions. I can't think of a single instance to the contrary. As for their professionalism or expertise, I have no problem whatsoever. Heck, ignoring the over-billing, even CME does a competent job.Aberdeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-23540202140491214602009-01-12T09:19:00.000-05:002009-01-12T09:19:00.000-05:00Aberdeener -With all due respect, I have no doubt,...Aberdeener -<BR/><BR/>With all due respect, I have no doubt, and I completely agree with you that the adoption of the COAH plan signals an indication the Township Council plans on rezoning the property in question so as to allow Centex to build its project. That's pretty obvious, even though the zoning apparently hasn't been changed yet.<BR/><BR/>However, that wasn't the emphasis of your blog. My issue with you is that your blog attacks the Town Planner Richard Coppola as being inconsistent in his opinions, which the above writer has just demonstrated as not being the case and also takes personal jabs at the Planning Board Attorney Michael Leckstein who the above writer has also demonstrated is not relevant to your alleged main point.<BR/><BR/>If the point of your blog is taking issue with the Township Council's intent to rezone the property, then I'm fine with that because the only body which can do the rezoning is the Township Council. Its a completely legitimate political issue for you to make.<BR/><BR/>However, when you start arguing the Town Planner and Planning Board Attorney are somehow involved in this endeavor and being inconsistent in their findings, when neither individual has been inconsistent nor have any power or authority to change the ordinance, well that just isn't right.<BR/><BR/>If you are going to disparage individual people in your blog, then I agree with the other writer -- you should learn your facts first before putting fingers to keyboard.<BR/><BR/>You should learn from your experience with Michael Gross, posted in an earlier blog, that professionals are guided by what they are handed by the bodies they represent. They don't create policy nor do they have any voting power. In the case of Richard Coppola, his original memorandum cited the facts of the zoning ordinance, nothing more nor nothing less. That report was written in a zoning context, the new report was written in a COAH context and two issues are not the same. No inconsistencies there and you probably owe Coppola an apology for the tone in your blog.<BR/><BR/>Stick with the issues you are arguing and stop disparaging individual people when you apparently don't really know the facts behind what is happening.<BR/><BR/>Just my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-18452332063095307442009-01-12T08:18:00.000-05:002009-01-12T08:18:00.000-05:00This is why I provide my sources - so people can a...This is why I provide my sources - so people can argue on the facts. <BR/><BR/>Still, based upon my understanding, the township has signaled its intent to permit Ciffeli to build the projects.<BR/><BR/>(As an aside, thanks for taking the time and consideration to argue with me on the facts. Though we disagree, I certainly appreciate the effort to set the record straight. As you note, I'm not an expert in all areas and I rely upon the readers to both correct me and provide other viewpoints. Much appreciated.)Aberdeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-55048536013207764092009-01-11T22:16:00.000-05:002009-01-11T22:16:00.000-05:00Again .... you just aren't getting it. No offense,...Again .... you just aren't getting it. No offense, but your posting displays your complete ignorance of how the process works.<BR/><BR/>You write "How is the Zoning Board going to deny a zoning change."<BR/><BR/>A Zoning Board does not have the power to approve or deny a zoning change. The power to change the zoning ordinance lies solely with the Township Council. The Zoning Board does not play any role whatsoever in drafting, approving or enacting a zoning change. <BR/><BR/>Next, Coppola doesn't support or oppose projects. As the Planner for the Zoning Board, he reviews applications subject to the provisions of the Township's Zoning Ordinance.<BR/><BR/>How he feels about the correctness of the Zoning Ordinance is completely irrelevant because, as I said before, a Zoning Board doesn't have the power to change the zoning ordinance. <BR/><BR/>The Planner doesn't tell the Zoning Board whether they should ignore the Ordinance. All he can do is say, "The Ordinance says this, and in light of the ordinance, this project does not comply, etc..."<BR/><BR/>In the example you give, you quote Coppola as saying "no residential uses are permitted in the HC Zone."<BR/><BR/>THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT! Its not an opinion. It is a fact. In Aberdeen, it is a FACT that residential uses are not permitted in the HC Zone. The only public body which can change this truth is the Township Council. The Zoning Board has no say or input on the issue. <BR/><BR/>Again -- I implore you to please learn how the process works and attempt to understand the difference between a COAH plan and the Zoning Ordinance. <BR/><BR/>People who read your blog tend to believe everything you say as being the gospel. With such power comes great responsibility. <BR/><BR/>I just ask that you take the time to learn the truth before stating things as "fact" which are nothing more than your "belief" and very often isn't even true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-52820737503155880982009-01-11T20:19:00.000-05:002009-01-11T20:19:00.000-05:00According to Coppola's original report, "the subje...According to Coppola's original report, "the subject tract of land is in the 'HC" Highway Commercial zoning district . . . no residential uses are permitted in the 'HC' zoning district." (Pages 4-5)<BR/><BR/>Either Coppola supports the project or opposes it, you can't have it both ways. <BR/><BR/>At the same time, the township has communicated its intent to proceed with the project by including it in the COAH plan. How is the zoning board going to deny a zoning change once the council has already committed to COAH to build the units?Aberdeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-72173368714840251612009-01-11T19:53:00.000-05:002009-01-11T19:53:00.000-05:00The point being made is "Your original posting is ...The point being made is "Your original posting is highly misleading." As you even say, the anonymous poster's statement is more accurate than yours was. The truth is, the project has not been approved by anyone. All that has happened is the submission of a COAH plan that anticipates the project. There is a huge difference.<BR/><BR/>Aberdeen's Zoning Ordinance has not been changed. It is the Zoning Ordinance which is the only thing which matters where building is concerned. A proposed COAH plan does not equate to a change in zoning. As the zoning ordinance presently reads, the Centax plan is still non-conforming and still requires all of the variances stated in the original Coppola report.<BR/><BR/>The reason it has been said that the findings in Coppola's original report haven't changed is that the first report was written from a Zoning perspective. From a Zoning perspective the project is highly non-conforming and pursuant to the existing zoning would be substantially harmful.<BR/><BR/>The second Coppola report is written from a COAH perspective, which has absolutely nothing to do with the zoning ordinance. From a COAH perspective, the project might very well make sense.<BR/><BR/>COAH and ZONING, while having some relationship, are not the same thing. I know you might not understand this, but its the reality. Its like comparing apples to oranges.<BR/><BR/>So, I promise you, Coppola's opinions are not inconsistant, because they are looking at things from completely different legal perspectives.<BR/><BR/>In order for the Centex proposal to conform to the Township's zoning code, the Township Council would have to amend its zoning ordinance. Its irrelevant what some COAH plan says.<BR/><BR/>Just because a COAH proposal has been submitted, doesn't mean the Council will ultimately change the Zoning Ordinance to enable Centex to build. Until that happens, your blog is entirely premature and reaches a conclusion which is more based upon a misunderstanding of the law than anything else. <BR/><BR/>Sorry to break the truth to you. Perhaps you should start consulting an attorney before posting these factual conclusions on your part. It really does an injustice to the community when false information, or in this case "half-truths" are spread.<BR/><BR/>I know ... now you can start the "zzzzzzzzs" or call me a "kauff lover" or whatever else you choose to do whenever someone cites evidence that counters what has been said here. Never mind that I'm not asleep, nor did I ever vote for anyone Kauff supported. I just don't like to see inaccurate information being spread. Best of luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-63186424546622297492009-01-11T13:15:00.000-05:002009-01-11T13:15:00.000-05:00Sorry, but I fail to see the point you're making. ...Sorry, but I fail to see the point you're making. I stated the town council has approved the project. You say, no, the council has only approved a plan calling for the project's development. Granted, your statement is more accurate but, in this context, what's the difference? The council has chosen to support a project that is contrary to the town's best interests. How can you argue that Coppola hasn't flipped-flopped from last year when his positions appear to contradict each other?<BR/><BR/>One other point - pay-to-play is not illegal. There are many forms of corruption that are not illegal yet seem commonplace in this township. I've not accused anyone of criminal activity.Aberdeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-77065920875946107732009-01-09T16:00:00.000-05:002009-01-09T16:00:00.000-05:00The Feds haven't stepped in because 90% of the stu...The Feds haven't stepped in because 90% of the stuff which is written on this blog is nothing but "rumor" and doesn't have any basis in reality. <BR/><BR/>Pretty much everything here is written by people who have no true understanding of what they are talking about. They take bits and pieces of information which they think they understand and then twist them into corrupt occurances because that is what they are looking for. <BR/><BR/>If you dedicate yourself to looking for a conspiracy, you will always find one, even if the facts dictate otherwise. <BR/><BR/>If Aberdeen was truly as corrupt as this BLOG reports, the Federal Prosecutor's office would have shut down the township years ago. <BR/><BR/>This entire blog about Centex is a case in point. Everyone keeps saying the Council approved the project. That isn't even remotely true. <BR/><BR/>Despite everything said here, the project HAS NOT been approved. I repeat - the project HAS NOT been approved.<BR/><BR/>All that occurred was the approval of sending an affordable housing plan to COAH for review. Even if COAH were to approve the plan, that still wouldn't equate to permission for Centex to build. Centex would still need to go before the Board of Adjustment to obtain their zoning approvals.<BR/><BR/>Nothing has changed from the status of the original memorandum written by Coppola. Everything said in that initial memorandum which criticizes the project remains true. <BR/><BR/>Since I am anonymous, I know you won't take my word for it, but feel free to go to the Township and request copies of the approved Centex plans. They won't be able to give them to you, because there are none. I know, I tried. The project most definitely has not been approved. <BR/><BR/>This is all a myth created by this blog. You have to learn not to believe everything you read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-25299120071828373342009-01-06T07:50:00.000-05:002009-01-06T07:50:00.000-05:00I don't understand if there is so much information...I don't understand if there is so much information on how the town council is crupt why hasn't the feds stepped in? I don't doubt that it is true. Lord only knows that this state is a mess from the bottom to the top. I have lived in Aberdeen for 8years,my husband has lived here all of his life,I have four childern in the school district and two that have graduated.I have seen the school system get worse over the years. I wouldn't mind paying the high taxes if our childern were getting the best education. This area of Monmouth county is very ideal we are close to the city and beaches at the same time but the township is making it so hard to live here. I hope that this election we all go out and vote for a change. We can not afford to keep them in office anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-8752707946547490202009-01-04T12:03:00.000-05:002009-01-04T12:03:00.000-05:00Centex townhomes located on Rt. 34 on land that sh...Centex townhomes located on Rt. 34 on land that should really only be used to allow continual ratables to help with lowering taxes. But not this time as it seems Kauff has allowed his good buddies the Ciffelli's to get all the approvals to build townhouses on both properties they just happen to own at the same. It also gets sold easily and looks legitimate with the idiotic COAH requirements. <BR/><BR/>What happened to only office space or retail along highways to help the taxpayers? Wait just a Norman Kauff minute it has also been said that the similar highway property once before got used for townhouses that our former town manager and the same former town attorney Norman Kauff had ownership of multiple units in. Just a coincidence you can be sure that the same two men who controlled all of the approvals and density levels ended up owning multiple units. What about quid pro quo or conflict of interest? Must be time again to help Norman and his friends instead of the taxpayers munder the guise of COAH requirements. <BR/><BR/>As for Centex on County Road that one was supposed to be approved for storage units only at one time. Now it seems it is time to make hay and Norman Kauff and the others want to cash in and screw the taxpayers once again with their questionable school tax-math equations that screws the school district and the taxpayers, just like Norman Kauff planned to do with Aberdeen Forge before that hit the skids with the now defunct Kara homes. That one would have set Norman and the crew up nicely you can be sure. My brother works for Hovsons in Freehold and he told me the money for that one could have been $50 million(+ -) dollars in profits even after paying Norman and his supposed professionals their shares. <BR/><BR/>People do not be shocked political payoffs still happen every single day. Whether it be asphalt jobs, engineering,town planner, or any developers seeking to build, the money flows to the political powerful and their minions. That like said so often is new Jersey pure and simple.<BR/><BR/>New Jersey deserves to be a national joke. We let it happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-87357676254374065452009-01-01T12:47:00.000-05:002009-01-01T12:47:00.000-05:00I am a ,little lost. Where are the Centex homes s...I am a ,little lost. Where are the Centex homes supposed to go?<BR/><BR/>What about the PRESERVE next to charlie brown's? Are there limitations who is going to live there? There are a lot of units...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-80984883474547405352008-12-30T08:38:00.000-05:002008-12-30T08:38:00.000-05:00I heard the best joke in my life yesterday.I would...I heard the best joke in my life yesterday.I would like to share it with all of you that according to the Kauffkins are supposedly wasting our time. <BR/><BR/>The Mayor of Aberdeen once said that AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL *here it comes get ready* AT THE END OF THE DAY ALL YOU HAVE IS YOUR INTEGRITY. <BR/><BR/>Isn't that the best joke you ever heard? <BR/> <BR/>The joke is Slob-el believes it.<BR/><BR/>If Slob-el doesn't get awarded a NORMAN KAUFF patronage job at the county there is always Las Vegas.<BR/><BR/>I will be at his first show and in the front row. I really hope Slob-el has the nerve to run for office again. After all he says he has INTEGRITY. All we have is <BR/><BR/>THE TRUTHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-45068652377947537742008-12-30T08:17:00.000-05:002008-12-30T08:17:00.000-05:00The graffiti is just another example of the frustr...The graffiti is just another example of the frustration that is now taking hold among the Kauffkins. <BR/><BR/>Very soon they will turn on each other when THE TRUTH *they are waiting to see it for themselves you can be sure since they are very afraid of what else we know about all of them* shines the light on them. <BR/><BR/>Like my dad used to say *expect it and it will happen when you don't expect it* all of the time. <BR/><BR/>All I can say is Norman and his henchmen will have an awful lot to explain around Aberdeen and elsewhere. <BR/><BR/>What I love is that we have it all ready to go and they are getting frustrated more and more everyday waiting for it to happen. We have plenty of time and hopefully they will do plenty of time. All they have is expectation and angst.<BR/><BR/>They make us pay and now we make them pay. In time waiting for THE TRUTH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-27692810244007900622008-12-29T22:20:00.000-05:002008-12-29T22:20:00.000-05:00I deleted the above comments that constituted graf...I deleted the above comments that constituted graffiti.Aberdeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14593197510549429078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-21475420279088903072008-12-29T21:15:00.000-05:002008-12-29T21:15:00.000-05:00Looks like someone had a boring afternoon and need...Looks like someone had a boring afternoon and needed to embarrass themselves. <BR/><BR/>You succeeded. Congratulations. <BR/><BR/>To Ira, Harry, Grata, Frank, Elaine, Dave, Carla, Bill and finally April please accept my condolences on your boredom. I sincerely hope that <BR/><BR/>Realitybitesyourbutt4goodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-91668865623486449202008-12-29T06:37:00.000-05:002008-12-29T06:37:00.000-05:00All I can say is F NK. Nothing more would do. GSP ...All I can say is F NK. <BR/><BR/>Nothing more would do. <BR/><BR/>GSP on the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-58242622110645290852008-12-29T06:23:00.000-05:002008-12-29T06:23:00.000-05:00Shake downs in the parking lotsHidden interests in...Shake downs in the parking lots<BR/><BR/>Hidden interests in land deals<BR/><BR/>Picking unqualified professionals <BR/><BR/>Orchestrating land deals without being elected by the taxpayers<BR/><BR/>Blocking approvals of various boards and committees <BR/><BR/>Forcing managers to leave because they would not sign off on fraudulent engineering bills<BR/><BR/>Being puppet master over elected officials with no backbone or hope<BR/>of serving the people<BR/><BR/>These are a few of my favorite things about Norman Kauff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-25322657392236713562008-12-28T09:35:00.000-05:002008-12-28T09:35:00.000-05:00The last posting from KennyCB was F'n hilarious.If...The last posting from KennyCB was F'n hilarious.<BR/><BR/>If Norman would only use his powers for good instead of evil. <BR/><BR/>Fat chance. Good doesn't pay the bills in politics in NJ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-83143267615503284282008-12-28T07:53:00.000-05:002008-12-28T07:53:00.000-05:00GOOD MORNING ABERDEEN EVERYONE HAVE A NORMAN KAU...GOOD MORNING ABERDEEN <BR/><BR/>EVERYONE HAVE A NORMAN KAUFF DAY <BR/><BR/>THAT IS A DAY WHERE ALL YOU DO IS ORCHESTRATE THE FLEECING OF THE CITIZENS OF MARLBORO, MANALAPAN. HAZLET AND OF COURSE OUR ABERDEEN <BR/><BR/>FIRST YOU GET UP AND START YOUR DAY WITH<BR/><BR/>A TALL GLASS OF ARROGANCE AND YOUR MEDICATIONS TO FIGHT OFF ANY GUILT NORM MAY HAVE FOR RUINING THE LIVES AND FUTURES OF SO MANY UNDER YOUR DEMENTED CONTROL.<BR/><BR/>A SHORT WALK OUT TO THE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY TO GET YOUR NEWSPAPER. AFTER ALL YOU HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE WHICH OTHER LOCAL NEW JERSEY POLITICIAN HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN AN EARLY MORNING SWEEP. ***ALWAYS REMEMBER TO LOOK UP AND DOWN THE STREET TO CHECK FOR DARK COLORED FORD CROWN VICTORIAS OR A WORK VAN THAT MIGHT HOLD A WIRETAP SURVEILLANCE TEAM*** <BR/><BR/>THEN YOU SIT DOWN INSIDE THE MANSION AND POUR YOURSELF A CUP OF COFFEE AND READ THE STOCK MARKET REPORTS ON YOUR *QUESTIONABLE* PERSONAL HOLDINGS THAT YOU HAVE SECRETED AWAY WITH TAXPAYER FUNDS. WE ALL SHOULD REALIZE THAT EVEN THOUGH THE STOCK MARKET AND NORMANS 401k MIGHT BE IN THE TANK THERE IS PLENTY MORE MONEY MONEY AVAILABLE TO SUSTAIN THE KAUFF SYNDICATE IN THE TAXPAYER WALLETS, POCKETBOOKS AND PIGGY BANKS OF THE YOUNG AND OLD LIVING IN THESE COMMUNITIES. RIGHT NORM <BR/><BR/>AFTER READING THE PAPER IT IS TIME FOR A BIG HEAPING BOWL OF THEFT AND DECEIT FOLLOWED BY A BUTTERED ROLL OF GREED AND CONTEMPT FOR THE PUBLIC <BR/><BR/>THEN IT IS TIME TO SHOWER AND GET DRESSED THEN HEAD DOWN TO THE OFFICE. GOT TO GET THERE EARLY AS IT IS MONDAY AND THE ELECTRONIC SWEEPER IS COMING TODAY TO CHECK THE OFFICE FOR ELECTRONIC BUGGING DEVICES. ALWAYS BE SURE WHILE YOUR DRIVING TO THE OFFICE ALWAYS LOOK FOR A TAIL FROM ANY VARIOUS LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL AGENCY THAT MIGHT HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL ACTIVITIES <BR/><BR/>THEN THERE IS A BUSY DAY OF PLOTTING, STEALING AND RAPING OF THOSE STUPID TAXPAYERS WITH VIC AND DAVE. A FEW CONTROLLING CALLS TO THE PUPPETS AND KAUFF APPOINTED PROFESSIONALS TO ENSURE THE BILLS KEEP BEING FORGED AND SUBMITTED. OCCASIONALLY THERE IS A LOOK OUTSIDE THE OFFICE FOR ANY UNMARKED VEHICLES WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING IN OR PHOTOGRAPHING WHO COMES AND WHO GOES FROM THE CRIME SCENE<BR/><BR/>HAVE TO GO TIME FOR CHURCH. I HOPE YOU HAVE ENJOYED A LOOK INSIDE NORMANS WORLD. NEXT TIME I WILL GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT ON NORMANS LUNCH MEETINGS AND HIS FAVORITE PLACES TO ENTERTAIN AND SLIDE THOSE ENVELOPES ACROSS THE TABLE.<BR/><BR/>I WILL SAY A PRAYER FOR ALL OF US AND I WILL SAY TWO PRAYERS FOR THE INVESTIGATORS WE HOPE ARE WORKING HARD TO TAKE THE KAUFF MAFIA CRIME WORLD FROM OUT OF OUR LIVESAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-43477068736655438612008-12-27T09:50:00.000-05:002008-12-27T09:50:00.000-05:00I am continually amazed at the hatred for Norman K...I am continually amazed at the hatred for Norman Kauff.<BR/><BR/>I love being amazed. Keep it going all the way to election day. <BR/><BR/>Norman will need to put out a help wanted ad: <BR/><BR/>Wanted: Position for political scumbag who raped the citizens of numerous municipalities, pilfered the taxpayers accounts ,excelled in cronyism and political favors yet somehow was never elected by the people for the people who did perish under his reign. <BR/><BR/>Who ever said dictatorship wouldn't work in America?<BR/><BR/>F Norman Kauff. <BR/><BR/>THE TRUTH IS COMING !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-65631171328808829032008-12-26T21:43:00.000-05:002008-12-26T21:43:00.000-05:00I hear you Mr. Aberdeener, what I should have said...I hear you Mr. Aberdeener, what I should have said is that no we do not need new condos BUT DO NEED BUSINESSES to help with tax relief.....<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the hard sought info on this topic though - I also like the Cifelli and Scudiery connection you made..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099245919524883845.post-32730827232904186852008-12-25T23:03:00.000-05:002008-12-25T23:03:00.000-05:00REALITY CHECK-- TRY IT NORMAN LOVERNorman Kauff is...REALITY CHECK-- TRY IT NORMAN LOVER<BR/><BR/>Norman Kauff is and will always be a scumbag. He should be crucified publicly in a town square, if Aberdeen had one that is, for what he and his cronies have done. <BR/><BR/>Most have no idea what he has cost this community in many different ways and a SICK like the previous idiot deserves what he gets and supposedly loves and admires. <BR/><BR/>Once again the BLAH, BLAH, BLAH and that type does little to shield Norman from THE TRUTH. <BR/><BR/>THE TRUTH IS THEY ARE WORRIED. <BR/><BR/>THE TRUTH IS THEY KNOW WE MAKE THEM VERY UNHAPPY. <BR/><BR/>THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH. <BR/><BR/>THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE. <BR/><BR/>So to the previous idiot I say--<BR/><BR/>KISS MY NORMAN !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com