Comments on Aberdeener: Un-Earned Credits and Degrees

Edegree is just a rehash of OEDB. The OEDB is a w...

2009-12-09T07:44:06.052-05:00

Edegree is just a rehash of OEDB.

The OEDB is a website that promotes online degrees and its ranking system doesn't include quality of education but does include many factors that have nothing to with education, like years of service.

WhichUniversity is a blog post that's copied from an article on Article Base that was written by a guy who works for a site that promotes online degrees where Walden is heavily advertised.

World Ranking cites surveys without links but none of the surveys references quality of education.

I appreciate your efforts but the fact remains Walden doesn't even crack the top 1000 universities in America; it's not ranked by a single national publication.

did some research...Walden University is ranked qu...

2009-12-08T23:37:32.835-05:00

did some research...Walden University is ranked quite well by several different sources.
see websites below.

http://www.edegreecolleges.com/colleges/top-ranked-universities-colleges-2009.shtml

http://whichuniversitybest.blogspot.com/2009/06/walden-university-online-mba-degree.html

http://oedb.org/rankings

http://worldranking.blogspot.com/2009/10/walden-university-online-rankings.html

Anon, Happy Thanksgiving :)

2009-11-27T07:42:13.516-05:00

Anon,

Happy Thanksgiving :)

Joey, How is it that you are such an expert on Wal...

2009-11-26T21:09:43.654-05:00

Joey,
How is it that you are such an expert on Walden? Are you a graduate? I have a degree from Walden and I'm proud of that. I use much of what I mastered in my courses in the classroom. I believe I got out of it what I put into it. When I made the decision to go to Walden over Kean Univerity (a face to face/brick and mortar school)part of the decision had to do with traveling and adding an extra hour to the commute to wait for a parking spot. Walden was more eco-friendly. (Many brick/mortar schools have on-line classes too - this is the 21st century!) One of my thoughts was that I could spend more time on course work if I was not driving up and down the parkway - and that I did. I put many honest hours into my work. In doing so I gave up quality time I could be spending with family for the good of my students and profession. Having this degree has given me the opportunity to continue my education toward another certificate at Kean University. Graduate classes are graduate classes none are cheap and easy. I'm glad I don't work in this district where there is so much negativity focused on continuing education. Rather ironic - you can keep your poison board member - I hope he's not contagious.

you guys are all cwayzee with too much time on you...

2009-11-25T23:48:48.359-05:00

you guys are all cwayzee with too much time on your hands. you need to do something constructive like maybe sign up for an online course through Walden University and then get back to us.

Then go back to fingerpainting with the other ment...

2009-11-16T10:29:35.766-05:00

Then go back to fingerpainting with the other mental patients in your sunken living room in Arizona...

Oh, the irony of "THE special needs a JOKE!"...

Couldn't have put it better myself outsideartist, you are a joke...

NO OTHER BUSINESS OPERATES LIKE THIS NOT ONE YOU G...

2009-11-15T21:30:21.415-05:00

NO OTHER BUSINESS OPERATES LIKE THIS
NOT ONE
YOU GET PAID WHAT YOUR WORTH

NOT
you get hours towards a degree and
So You get more money? DOes it change the course? The teachers ways,Shouldn't this be proven?
NO ENTITLEMENTS,with my money please.
IN PHOENIX. I paid $1,200.00 for the entire year.
The schools and teachers were happy and gorgeous the curriculum was #1......I had a LARGE home 3 baths 4 bedrooms,sunken living room,tile roof kitchen was 11x32......deck,balcony,loft,walk-in closets,even a phone in the toilet! pool,hot tub cascading...Into the Large Play Pool.
Beautiful grounds and community no crap.
.

Here We pay $1,000.00 Per MONTH! WHY DOES a street cleaner come around here? so much waste........... I see no difference to the GOOD HERE..just lies and abuse of power.

I KNOW THE ARIZONA DIFFERENCE!

MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE Schools here have been sub standard! 75% of what I witnessed HERE IN MATAWAN.

What is RELEVANT( with the class the teacher is taking) to the RIGOROUS CURRICULUM supposedly being TAUGHT so they can say the school did it ALL?" hehehe

like my child's pre cal teacher"as she told us my daughter would not ...

"not finnish the class even though
MY CHILD HAD A 94% or so,
and
THE SCHOOL DID NOTHING WHILE SHE got her freaking RAISE simultaneously I SAY She didn't deserve it! I saw nothing more that teacher was worth than a first year teacher.......

She was rude and selfish to boot! BOOT THEM OUT IF THEY DONT PRODUCE! stop teaching to a dang test..THIS means the teacher cant do anything else and not fair to the fast learners..
WASTED TIME at school.too many hours wasted.
THE special needs a JOKE! they try their hardest to keep you from the real HELP I SAY HELP YOUR SELF and get rid of them

PRIDEFUL PEOPLE get OUT NOW! stop doing what you tried to do to us..Maybe now to the others GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT! People use your own doc and get it done yourself! and then we have the TRANSPORTATION WASTE"
on the special needs one at a time chauffeurs.
WHERE ARE THESE SPECIAL CONTRACTS THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW! and did in 2006! well? I am done for now..ITS JUST SICKENS ME>>what I had and what is here and how it is just so shitty!

Yes, we know Joe, you are a hero. A true legend, i...

2009-11-15T10:57:46.442-05:00

Yes, we know Joe, you are a hero. A true legend, in your own mind.

The last time I raised something, I lost 8-1 and t...

2009-11-15T08:49:17.318-05:00

The last time I raised something, I lost 8-1 and then got action on all three items. If you think this issue is dead, you haven't been paying attention.

Ouch

2009-11-15T07:22:31.242-05:00

Ouch

Good 6-3 you lose shut up. next item

2009-11-14T21:59:26.499-05:00

Good

6-3

you lose

shut up.

next item

Nobody on the board would be reviewing a teacher&#...

2009-11-14T21:34:06.920-05:00

Nobody on the board would be reviewing a teacher's papers. Nor would anyone in the administration be evaluating those papers. The question before the board was whether we should advise the superintendent to request to see those papers. Only three board members believed we should.

You want proof of the coursework completed? Then ...

2009-11-14T18:18:36.461-05:00

You want proof of the coursework completed? Then just ask for it. I bet there isn't a teacher out there, in any district, who isn't so proud of the amount of work they put in to complete their online degree that they wouldn't love to show your their final portfolios and papers. But seriously- shouldn't the superintendent be looking for this kind of information, not BOE members? Do all the BOE members have advanced college degrees in education that make them "qualified" to evaluate the effectiveness of these online courses? Just askin'

I notice Nova Southeastern (the online University ...

2009-11-13T21:20:08.650-05:00

I notice Nova Southeastern (the online University from which BOE Vice-President received his degree)is not ranked on the list of colleges at all. Isn't this sort of a contradiction of practice?

Robert, What online university are you using? A...

2009-11-13T20:22:06.121-05:00

Robert, What online university are you using? And what was that decision based on?

MARSD kids lag behind their peers, because previous administrations never cared about pushing them beyond the bare minimum requirements. Thank goodness that seems to be changing.

Online learning is the wave of the future. It is ...

2009-11-13T19:10:44.823-05:00

Online learning is the wave of the future. It is people like you who would like to keep education stuck back in the 1950's when filmstrips were advanced technology. Wake up - we are becoming an online world and those who are left behind will stay stuck in the stone age. I am sure that MARS wants their teachers to be technologically proficient, but not allow them to earn a degree online? Sounds like a bit of hypocrisy, don't you think? I am a teacher at a nearby district and I am getting my advanced degree online and it is definitely more work than going and sitting in class for 2 hours once a week. Have you ever even investigated what goes on in a distance learning scenario? With some of the stuff that I hear about coming from the leadership of this district, it is no wonder that MARS kids lag behind their peers at other Monmouth County schools.

"I think all of your college degree's are...

2009-11-13T18:21:11.900-05:00

"I think all of your college degree's are just about equally worthless! I don't believe any of them higher degree's(regardless of where they came from) make a better teacher, or benefit the children of this school district."

Looks like the above poster don't have any of them there higher degrees.

Masters degrees are important. Keep up the fight Joey to have them mean something to our students; not just the teachers pay check.

Would someone please wake me when Joey's term ...

2009-11-13T14:34:55.387-05:00

Would someone please wake me when Joey's term is over? or, when he goes back where he came from? Thanks

Anon, Why don't you read my response at 5:59 ...

2009-11-12T23:31:12.580-05:00

Anon,

Why don't you read my response at 5:59 or any of my prior posts regarding online degrees. My issue is with the cheap and easy online degrees that bring no value to the classroom.

Once again, nobody is defending Walden University. Instead, all my critics appear to be fighting for a teacher's right to enroll in the cheapest and easiest school he can find so he can get his raise. Students and taxpayers are irrelevant.

So because the HIGH and HOLY Joe Warren deems coll...

2009-11-12T19:44:14.118-05:00

So because the HIGH and HOLY Joe Warren deems colleges and tuitions paid useless - we must all agree?

What about someone's question pertaining to summer school on line courses being allowed?

And your tone here suggests very strongly that you do not trust the teachers in your district and basically are calling them liars, cheats, and theoretically thieves.

I am not a teacher- my opinion is coming from someone who works in the field of law.

******HERE IS THE BEST QUESTION which you won't answer (my prediction).

Joe W. works at company XYZ. He sees an opportunity to earn a degree, a masters, to enhance what he does at XYZ. At the end of the process he will receive a raise because of the extra education.

But Joe W. has a family, a job, and a home to care of. He cannot find the time to attend a face to face school.

You are telling me that Joe W. would not attend a school, earn a masters, enhance his profession, and even get a raise because he does not beleive in online learning?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!! Let's hear your excuse filled and elitist answer.

I think all of your college degree's are just ...

2009-11-12T19:06:23.982-05:00

I think all of your college degree's are just about equally worthless! I don't believe any of them higher degree's(regardless of where they came from) make a better teacher, or benefit the children of this school district.

I'm willing to recognize any of the following ...

2009-11-12T17:59:23.377-05:00

I'm willing to recognize any of the following programs -
1) Any in-person masters program at an accredited university
2) Any online program from a school when that school ranks in the top 50% in a nationally recognized publication
3) Any online program that has professional accreditation from the NCATE.

If a program can't meet any of those criteria, I doubt it adds any value to our teachers.

What constitues "cheap and easy?" Will ...

2009-11-12T17:31:35.483-05:00

What constitues "cheap and easy?"

Will this be a Joey Warren or Board of Education definition?

This is funny. Here's the website you're quoting - GuideToOnlineSchools.com.

So, here we have a website that nobody ever heard of, they ranked 25 random online schools using metrics that have nothing to do with education or student outcomes, and even here Walden is ranked 24th out of 25 colleges.

As I said, pretty funny.

Here is the other half Overall Rankings - Met...

2009-11-12T17:17:58.504-05:00

Here is the other half

Overall Rankings - Methodology - Metric Data

Today, there are thousands of online colleges available for higher learning. Like traditional universities, they vary in reputation and academic prestige, but due to their recent rise in popularity, few well-researched comparisons and ratings are available on different schools and programs. Our online college rankings system is designed to remove this veil from online education. We strive to not only help aspiring students make informed decisions when choosing a program, but also for online schools to be held to the same standards as traditional universities. Through examining accreditation statuses, tuition costs, student-to-faculty ratios,

Methodology

The overall purpose of these rankings is to create a standardized and trustworthy method to rank online institutions based on reliable statistics. These ratings will allow potential students to better judge the schools they are considering attending and make a more educated decision in the end. The following criteria were used to rank the schools:

Accreditation: Regional accreditation is widely considered to be the most selective and prestigious of all accreditation types. It also serves its students better by allowing them to transfer credits between institutions easily. Therefore, schools with this accreditation were ranked higher on our list.

Cost of Tuition and Books: The cost of a higher education is a huge factor for many when deciding

Metric Data

The following table shows the breakdown of the data for our determining factors. To save space, we abbreviated the names of the columns and the colleges. By clicking on the college name, you will be taken directly to the school's information page to learn more about the institution.

The rest of the abbreviations are explained here— RA: Regional Accreditation, TTC: Total Tuition Cost, # S: Number of Students, # FF: Number of Full-Time Faculty, # PT: Number of Part-Time Faculty Instructors, SF: Student-to-Faculty Ratio, GR: Graduation Rate, RR: Retention Rate.

School RA TTC #S #FF #PT S/F GR RR
Abilene Christian University Yes $20,080 4,675 222 30 19 57% 74%
Ashford University Yes $16,090 10,568 45 703 14 41% 45%
AT Still University Yes $40,367 2,880 89 352 7 83% 60%
Boston University Yes $37,910 32,053 2,394 1,189 9 82% 91%
Bowling Green State University Yes $12,542 20,684 921 329 17 57% 76%
California University of Pennsylvania Yes $8,214 8,206 289 99 21 49% 79%
Capella University Yes $12,560 21,773 102 5 203 50% 60%
City University Yes $14,192 3,566 27 1304 3 50% 60%
Colorado Technical University Online Yes $11,536 21,876 5 611 36 50% 60%
Grand Canyon University Online Yes $17,710 13,415 52 346 34 46% 69%
Iowa Central College Yes $4,450 5,731 76 259 17 30% 58%
Jones International University Yes $12,040 1,588 0 110 14 50% 60%
Liberty University Online Yes $4,700 38,000 340 485 33 45% 71%
New England College Yes $27,322 1,460 56 121 8 45% 66%
Northeastern University Yes $34,621 24,434 0 836 29 66% 91%
Norwich University Yes $27,064 3,442 122 188 11 48% 77%
Pinnacle Career Institute Online No $12,569 525 13 29 13 67% 52%
Saint Leo University Yes $18,085 13,788 98 951 13 41% 70%
San Joaquin Valley College Online Yes $12,790 436 1 40 11 54% 85%
Strayer University Yes $14,595 35,754 159 1699 19 54% 78%
University of Maryland University College Yes $13,360 32,540 237 1378 20 50% 58%
University of Phoenix Yes $12,340 224,880 0 13,419 17 50% 61%
Walden University Yes $16,000 29,455 67 1,026 27 50% 60%
Western Governors University Yes $6,770 9,022 154 6 56 37% 78%