Thursday, April 22, 2010

Those Lying Lawyers of Aberdeen

Last Monday, Aberdeen Township was bamboozled into approving an ordinance zoning for 194 new housing units to allegedly appease the Council on Affordable Housing (COAH), even though only 37 of the units are actually for affordable housing (19 for moderate and 18 for low income). I say allegedly because the only evidence that COAH ever made such a demand is town attorney Dan McCarthy’s say-so. And Dan McCarthy is a liar. But he’s not Aberdeen’s only liar for hire. So is our esteemed planning/zoning board attorney, Michael Leckstein.

Town hall was packed with over a hundred people protesting a massive housing development that would flood our schools, increase our taxes, and congest our roads, not to mention the environmental impact from high-density construction in a wetlands area. (Hat tip: AberdeenNJlife)

Leckstein famously set the tone by first insisting the public had no right to comment on any of this at the planning board meeting and then, when the audience asserted its right to speak, he threatened “police force”.

According to Leckstein, “There’s no requirement in the statute to have any public comment whatsoever about what’s happening.”

No requirement in the statute? Is it possible Leckstein never heard of The Open Public Meetings Act, a.k.a. “The Sunshine Law”? That particular statute states “a municipal governing body shall be required to set aside a portion of every meeting of the municipal governing body, the length of the portion to be determined by the municipal governing body, for public comment on any governmental issue that a member of the public feels may be of concern to the residents of the municipality.”

Leckstein – You’re a liar and I wouldn’t mind seeing you subjected to a little “police force”.

After the planning board unanimously approved the ordinance, the town council considered the issue, this time led by McCarthy. He claimed Aberdeen was the “poster child” of COAH’s cruelty. McCarthy insisted repeatedly and throughout the night that if the council failed to immediately approve the ordinance, Aberdeen would lose its COAH certification two days later at COAH’s April 21st meeting and be subject to an onslaught of builder remedy lawsuits.

Only one problem. Aberdeen was never on COAH’s April 21st agenda. I emailed COAH about the inconsistency and they replied -

Mr. Warren –

COAH heard oral argument at its March 10, 2010 meeting regarding a motion filed by C&M Real Estate and RCM Group for an Order to Show Cause as to why Aberdeen Township will not abide by the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding executed with RCM on December 17, 2009, based upon a settlement agreement reached at COAH mediation. However, because Aberdeen Township passed the ordinance in question on firsts reading two weeks ago, the developer withdrew the motion. Presumably if the Township did not pass the ordinance last night, the developer would have refilled the motion to be heard at COAH’s May meeting.
Now, one might be inclined to ask “What’s the difference? April, May, it doesn’t matter.” But it does matter.

The council claimed the only reason it was approving the ordinance was because McCarthy told them COAH had “put a gun to the head of the township” and would withdraw its certification. There is no documentation, no correspondence, nothing in writing whatsoever to substantiate McCarthy’s claim. Nor was anyone else from the township present at the March 10th hearing to confirm McCarthy’s reconstruction.

And McCarthy lied about the April 21st meeting. That doesn’t mean he lied about everything but what sane individual would vote to authorize 194 housing units based solely upon the testimony of a liar.

The township approved an “Inclusionary Housing Overlay Zone” for the largest construction project since Avalon because McCarthy told them to. The council never consulted with the school district, never conducted an economic impact study, and never asked the developer how many children we could expect from the development. Nor will the 37 affordable housing units do much to alleviate our COAH obligations, the supposed reason for allowing the project.

Was the council duped? I would have assumed so until they and McCarthy claimed to not know who the principal was behind RCM. Hmmm. What are the chances that, after negotiating for over a year with RCM, they never realized the company is owned by Cifelli, Aberdeen’s largest developer?

It’s also fascinating that the council never discussed COAH’s threat at its March 16th meeting. The first we see any discussion is after Governor Christie’s task force recommends abolishing COAH and sharply curtailing affordable housing obligations across the state.

Next thing, they’ll be blaming the school district for our high property taxes.

To everyone who was there to protest that night and to everyone who wishes they could’ve been there as well – this ain’t over. Not by a long shot. >>> Read more!

58 comments:

LIES LIES ALL LIES ???? said...

Can

anyone

say

ATTORNEY

GENERAL

INVESTIGATION

??????????????

Kauff gets his $$$$$$$$ said...

What Kauff wants Kauff gets!

Anonymous said...

What will the board and politicians say if their own lawyers(pronounced liars)did not tell them the truth and then they voted on something so important with false or misleading information supplied by their supposed professionals.

Enjoying the ride Mayor Tagliareni?

Liar Liar Pants On Fire said...

These guys give lawyers a bad name. Kauff, Leckstein, McCarthy -- all need to go.

Tagliarini the Weenie needs to go for telling the crowd at town hall that he'll do the right thing.

This behavior is criminal.

Anonymous said...

Interesting article in WSJ about Goldman and Aberdeen, NJ

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704133804575198120387721724.html

Anonymous said...

Psst! Joey, That "wetlands" thing is just what the doctor ordered. I thought of that myself but since I don't like you, I didn't want to tell you. (Although a smart guy like you would stumble upon it.)
Anyway, I believe "wetlands" is State (maybe Federal)and if it stinks, the State will scutinize it. Go get 'em, tiger!

Hi ho hi ho........ said...

Hi
Ho
Hi
Ho
It's
off
to
Jail
the
following
go

Zoning Board
Planning Board
Town Council
Mark Leckstein
Mike Leckstein
Dan McCarthy
Bill Shenton
Norman Kauff
Dave Samuels
Various at CME
Developers who supposedly unknown

Having fun yet Coach Fred????????

Anonymous said...

I think it is time for all of Aberdeen (Cliffwood Beach, Cliffwood, Aberdeen, Strathmore, Freneau and any other missed 'section' of Aberdeen) to make a stance Why should we me made to look like fools... no, idiots, we consist of a diverse array of people with all levels of education, who are not going to take it anymore.
The folks over there at One Aberdeen Square are supposed to be working for us!!! If we can be lied to and take it.... who are we, but who they are saying we are. The time has come to pool our resources (not only financially) to take back what is ours.......ABERDEEN.

An investigation is long overdue!!

They cannot hide from the rolling of the tape!!

For those sections of Aberdeen (Cliffwood Beach and Cliffwood) that do not get the Independent free (which I don't understand why).. there is an article about the meeting as well.
http://independent.gmnews.com/


By the way, who knows what this Kauff-Man looks likes, where he lives and what his salary is?

Anonymous said...

I personally spoke with a couple of individuals from the planning board after the meetings and was told that they had been told by the lawyers that they had to vote 'yes' no matter what the public said. They were told to not use their objective opinion in determining for themselves how to vote.
This practice needs to definitely be looked into. My understanding of a board was to be able to hear all sides of a concern and make a full informed decision and if they were not satisfied to ask for a postponement or more information ......... I DON'T GET IT!!! AND DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU DO EITHER!!!!

THEY ARE COMING COACH FRED said...

SO MUCH FOR FRED TAGLIARIN WHO PROMISED TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE.

HEY FRED JUST SO YOU KNOW NORMAN KAUFF ESQUIRE DOES NOT COUNT AS PEOPLE.

YOUR DOWNFALL FRED IS NAMED KAUFF.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MAN WE KNEW AS COACH FRED. THE AWARD WE GAVE YOU THE OTHER DAY AT THE OPENING OF BASEBALL SEASON PROBABLY WAS YOUR LAST EVER AWARD. UNLESS OF COURSE I GET TO GO TO ANOTHER ABERDEEN ITALIAN AMERICAN CLUB HONOREE DINNER THAT HAS YOUR NAME ON THE PLAQUE THIS TIME. THEY GIVE THOSE THINGS AWAY TO ALMOST ANYBODY LATELY. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A MEMBER MUCH MORE THEN A MONTH OR SO TO GET ONE.
WHAT HAPPENED TO HONEST COACH FRED?

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR PLEDGE TO DO RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE COACH FRED?

WHAT HAPPENED TO HONEST AND OPEN GOVERNMENT. ITS COMING FRED EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PULL IT OUT OF YOU.

FRED IT ALSO SEEMS YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE TOLD SO BELIEVE THIS.

NORMAN KAUFF AND HIS LAWYERS, NORMAN KAUFF AND HIS CME AND NORMAN KAUFF AND HIS ASSORTED OTHERS ARE LYING TO YOU AND YOU VOTED TO APPROVE A LIE IN THE FACE OF THE PEOPLE WHO NOW KNOW YOU LIED TO ALL OF THEIR FACES. THEY KNOW YOU ARE A KAUFF LACKEY.

OH HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN.

THEY ARE COMING FRED SO GET READY!

Anonymous said...

Hey Joey-

Did you call the APP? This kind of scandal is right up their investigative reporting alley! They will be quick to find the cover ups and payoffs. They did it with Marlboro and this sounds like a copy cat crime.

Anonymous said...

Make sure to record every conversation, transaction, meeting, document to do with Aberdeen Town Teams.

There are sure to be more slip-ups!!

It won't take long to acquire more and more evidence against them!

Just some Fred advice said...

The roof the roof the roof is on fire. Look out Fred and Normy it is time to hire

L A W Y E R S

Just like the Clinton's Fred we will not forget the first time Normy made you lie.

Run Fred run.

Save yourself Fred.

Mark Coren said...

Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
You'll be surprised
You're doing the French Mistake!!
VOILA!!

TAXPAYERS UNITE said...

Who exactly is on the Zoning and Planning Boards? The township's website is outdated. It still lists David Sobel as mayor!! These are appointed positions. As taxpayer we have a right to know who they are.

JOIN THE CHA OR YOUR NEXT said...

THIS IS THE TIME TO UNITE AND FIGHT TEAM KAUFF. WE CAN TAKE BACK OUR ABERDEEN.

JOIN US IN THIS FIGHT TO RID OUR COMMUNITY OF KAUFF AND HIS CORRUPTION.

IT IS TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR TAXES FROM THE CORRUPT, OPPRESSIVE, UNRELENTING AND INFLATED FEES AND THE TOTALLY CORRUPT PAYOFFS THAT SUSTAIN TEAM KAUFF AND THEIR CORRUPT CAMPAIGNS.

WE NEED JOIN TOGETHER AND STOP

KAUFF
KAUFF AND HIS CME
KAUFF CONTROLLED BOARDS
KAUFF CONTROLLED COMMITEES
KAUFF CONTROLLED DEVELOPMENT
KAUFF CONTROLLED FEES
KAUFF CONTROLLED APPROVALS
KAUFF CONTROLLED ANYTHING

IT IS TIME FOR KAUFF TO GO

WE NEED CITIZENS, TOWN EMPLOYEES, BUSINESS OWNERS AND MORE TO ONCE AND FOR ALL JOIN WITH THE CHA TO WIN THIS FIGHT TO STOP THESE PROJECTS FROM COMING TO COUNTY ROAD.

IF YOU DO NOT JOIN OUR FIGHHT AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL, WHILE LYING TO OUR FACES YOUR AREA OF TOWN WILL BE NEXT.

IT IS TIME TO STOP CORRUPTION. NOW!

Say AMEN Normy said...

Time to protest in front of their homes. Signs, whistles the works. What do you think they will do then? Just an idea. Everyone of them controled and beholding to Normy. They all live in town and they all have neighbors. They all listen to Normy religiously right so lets take them to church.

Say AMEN brothers and sisters.

Normy asks said...

Can't we all just get along?

Taxpayers ask said...

If this was a private company doing this type of thing they would all be indicted like an organized crime family.

Politicians and crime figures not a bit of differnce between them. Right Normy? Right Fred? Right Greg? Right Jimmy? Right Maggie? Right Owen? Right Whilemina? Right Vinnie? Right Dan? Right Mike? Right Mark, Right Bill? Right RCM?

1st time posting here said...

I was reading my independent news today and find it hard to believe my eyes. The story of our council and the plight of my neighbors in the Cliffwood area has me very concerned. It also leaves me many questions that will be looked into starting now. I have read this article several times and called my neighbor over for coffeee. While discussing this article she told me about this site so here we go.


I have known many of these people listed in the paper and in leadership roles for a long time now. I live near one councilman and another coached my son. If what is printed and what we have read so on this site so far is true we have a serious problem with our elected officials in our community. This would be the point where my husband would tell me to relax. I lost him last year and am on my own to look into this troubling situation. I am very angry at the disrespect the lawyer showed these residents. These are my neighbors who had legitimate complaints and it seemed he had somewhere to go and wanted to deny these people their voice.

I have decided to look into this futher and will be at the next council meeting to watch for myself. On another note we should hope that some of the people on the inside come forward. Come forward that is and join our neighbors that our town leaders have decided to ignore.

I find this entire thing at the start to be very upsetting and it seems politics has reached a new low even in our community it is sad to say.

Anonymous said...

1st time posting

Don't forget to take your video camera! All meetings need to be recorded.

Anonymous said...

Time to rent that big inflatable RAT on wheels and let it make the rounds from lawyer to lawyer, councilman to councilman...last stop the mayor.

Isn't there some endangered pine snake or something there?

If it was commercial property there must also be some kind of superfund cleanup that must be done. Both things can get a project stalled for years/decades. Just a thought!

It is just that simple said...

Lying = Lawyers

Kauff = Corrption personified

Tagliarini = Allegiant corruption

Cannon = Should see it already

Montone = Takes her orders always

Lauro = Knows all the corruption

Drapkin = Profits off of Kauff

Gumbs = Tired and Cashed out

Vinci = Swan song along for ride

McArthey = Spreads his impropriety

Lechstein = Do anything for Kauff $

Shetton = Not as greedy as Axlerod

Zoning Board = Controlled by Kauff

Planning Board = Just window shop

CME = Kauff controlled $$$$$$$$$$


This leaves nothing to the imagination. It shows the players and their repsected interets and reasons for their attachment to the corruption that is Norman Kauff.

It is just that simple 2 said...

My bad. My bong was talking to me and my typing sucks when my bong goes cheech and chong on my ass.

Aberdeen's top ten ????? said...

In reviewing the independent article the following stands out.

1. Mcarthy says the ordinace needed to be ammended by 4/21.

Liar?

2. He went down to Trenton representing the township and looked at the commissioner od CA Ms grifa he argued with her to give us some time to figure out what was going to happen.

Need to Find Grifa confirm or deny.

3. Mcarthy advises council we would be vulnerable to builders remedy lawsuit with costly consequences.

Only proof is Mcarthy's word.

Did any council person confirm or deny? Was there any written proof from the man with questionable legal prowess? The same man who seems to have a proclivity for Cohen-Coren type clients (chickenhawks)and whose choice for the town employee attorney is the #1 porn industry hired gun?

4. Mcarthy says we are stuck.

Is this true or is this what Kauff is using to ensure this development gets done so he can cash in due to health concerns? Are we really stuck and if so where is the proof? Do these council people believe a lawyer?

5. Mcarthy says appeals could be filed and we would not have the protection of coah. Who cares about coah when most every community is fighting coah or hiring professionals to guide them through the coah process? Is Mcarthy a coah expert? Did our town contact the man helping Middletown with the excellent work they are doing, while fighting coah? What kind of attorney is Mcarthy? Does he specialize in anything related to governmental operations, municipal law or coah? Did any of the council people ask him? Does Kauff allow the council to ask him to answer questions?. What happened to the representatives from council who were on the coah team, that we were told about so long ago? Who were they and did they make recommendations on the development or just go along with Kauff?

6. The applications were withdrawn for 34 and County Rd. allowing the bamboozle to occur on Monday night. New plans it says will be resubmitted later in the year. Is there a maximum number of units now under the no information or paperwork, other then Mcarthy's word? Is Kauff's council to decide the density and more which Kauff took away from the Zoning Board now? Is that legal?

7. Town Planner Copola and Copola seem uncertain from the start as to environmental concerns and precautions until they changed their minds on the approved use and zoning classification. Why? Has Copola done that often under the Kauff developmental plans on other projects? Same goes for CME without any question. Does anyone remember the three story apartments that became four stories and why? Anyone remember the changes that Copola said ahould not be allowed on this exact same site on County Road and 34 until Kauff got them to change their minds? Same goes for CME without any question on same projects, these exact same projects to be exact.

8. Anyone wonder why the number of low income, affordable units are so different in percentages and types from 34 to County Road? Did any of the council ask why the difference in percentages, types and marketability of these units from one place to another?

9. Anyone question anyone involved as to proof of anything Mcarthy, Copola or what CME said?

10. Anyone explain why a purchaser of a property who bought a million dollar piece of property zoned for one purpose could make such a drastic change and so negatively impact a minority community but not another non minority community in the same town?

So many questions and so little truth from our officials. Going forward I have to ask one question. How much work do you think the council will be trusted to do if they screw such a large and vocal section of our community so arrogantly going forward with all of the press coverage and public disent will bring upon them from now on?

Having fun yet Coach Fred and all of you new people?

Play Ball hit this one out of park.

Pat said...

Kudos, Aberdeener. That response is precious.

No beer for you Greg said...

Greg Cannon you are a joke. Some legal mind you are. All that money at Notre Dame and you can't see a liar when he is lying to your face. Is it a legal brotherhood that you now have to deny that which is the obvious untruth. Your a joke as a politician and it is not funny. The young people who thought you would stand up and make a difference laugh at you. Just so you know you sold out. We don't miss you at the watering hole. So much for representing the Fightin Irish. You're a joke.

Anonymous said...

Welcome to the world of politics Greggy.

Anonymous said...

Cannon is an eltist he is kidding no one. I knew him in high school and he was jerk there too. I remember he dated a young blonde for a long time and he could not close the deal there either. He seems to be Norman Kauff's girlfriend now. Did not think he went that way. Then again you never know. I concur no beer for you Greg.

WE ARE COMING NORMY said...

Just e-mailed NJN News, APP.Com, News 12, Star Ledger, Governors office (fax), Sen Kyrillos, Congressman Pallone (can't say he did not know), Greater Media, WSJ, NY Post and Daily News, NJ Law. If you think of any others please post their info and it will be sent.

The title of the post is simple.

PLEASE HELP US

POLITICAL PAY TO PLAY AT ITS WORST

UNACCOUNTABLE MAN RUNS THE TOWN

LAWYERS LYING TO LEADERSHIP

MILLIONS TO POLITICALLY CONNECTED

TAXES CONTROLLED BY UNELECTED MAN

PROFESSIONALS FLEECING TAXPAYERS

We are coming Normy!

To those who will post that we are full of hot air I say to you. Sure we are. We did not send any e-mails or faxes. We did not make any calls to news directors. We did not make our plight known.

Sure we did'nt. Wink Wink.

See ya at the next council meeting!

IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL said...

Our political leadership is aghast that we think they run our community like an organized crime family. Just so they all know that all we have planned and will be speaking out against them that

IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL JUST BUSINESS

You all want to deny us our rights now we will now be working hard to deny all of you your rights of freedom by getting you investigated, indicted, convicted and punsihed for your crimes.

SEND KAUFF, CME AND ALL THE OTHERS HE CONTROLS PACKING AND YOU CAN SAVE YOURSELVES A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEMS, EMBARASSMENT AND MONEY.

Remember

IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL JUST BUSINESS

Play Ball said...

This is getting very interesting. Yesterday the Superintendent of schools for the Toms River School District had his house, his girlfriends house and his offices were raided. Witnesses say twelve F.B.I. cars alone came down his street and surrounded his home, agents removed boxes upon boxes from all of these locations and his vehicles were siezed.

I have to ask how many F.B.I. cars do you think will be coming for our supposed political leadership in the not so distant future?

Time to turn Kauff in Coach Fred.

Anonymous said...

Play Ball you and your type are tiring. I have been reading your posts on here for years. GIVE IT UP. That fax/email that WE ARE COMING NORMY sent I am sure will have a big impact. Keep up the good work idiots.

The show is entitled said...

Come on people Norman runs the show and the feature presentation tonight is *CORRUPTION* live and in lving color. Get your tickets, pop corn and jujubees the as show starts at the next town council meeting.

Anonymous said...

I have never been active in politics but after attending my first town meeting I am disgusted with our elected officials. Over 100 angry residences trying to voice their opinions and we were all being shut out. Then to read this blog about the lies they have fed us is even more insulting.

We must take control of the next election and that begins now.

Anonymous said...

You are of course assuming it is the politicans who are telling the lies.

This Blog is a cesspool for lies which is why no one takes it seriously.

Anonymous said...

Sir, or Madam,
I will have you know that I take everything on this blog 100 percent seriously! Everything Mr. Warren puts forth is fact. I know that when the Aberdeener says something, I can trust it without fail. I also believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and I just purchased this great bridge from a guy who just happened to be riding the same train as me. What great luck I have!

Aberdeener said...

I'm flattered you believe I can falsify videos, witnesses, documents, and websites.

So many evil powers. Maybe they'll make a comic book about me one day. :)

Anonymous said...

No. But you can certainly edit videos so as to only present portions relevant to your personal agenda.

How about putting video of the entire hearing online so that the video appears in its proper perspective and context.

Why not show video of the residents yelling and acting disorderly.

Why not show video of yourself at the meeting. By the way, I am told you came across like a complete moron. I'd really like to see that.

Well? How about it? Do you have the balls?

TRUST A POLITICIAN NO F"N WAY said...

It is said we in a post before this one that we should trust politicians. What is next trusting used car salesmen, wall st. workers, President Obama and Hillary and Bill Clinton. I sooner eat my own feet. Politicians are liars and anyone associated with Norman Kauff is the posterboy or poster girl for corrupt politicians.

Anonymous said...

I agree 100% with the last poster. The Aberdeener is a politician and is therefore a liar and can't be trusted.

Don't trust any of them said...

A politician can never be trusted, D or R, and a politician Joey most certainly is. If you don't think there is a personal gain, or agenda behind every topic he posts here on this blog, you are a very gullible person. Wanna buy some land in Florida?

Anonymous said...

"Honest politician" is an oxymoron but that's not the point. The point is an undesirable neighborhood is poised to be build that will have a huge impact on the environment, the police force (because I do believe that this type of building will increase the drug and gang problem we already have), volunteer emergency services and our school district (class size and test scores). I also believe that there is a false rush to push COAH because Gov. Christie is about to disband it. Developers are greasing palms to get their plans in before the COAH mandates are a moot point. When COAH dies this area would be ripe for an upscale development if a development had to be built there. It could have been the beginning of the Renaisance that our town deserves. Instead of moving toward a Marlboro or Holmdel we are sliding into a Keansburg or Asbury Park. I guess the only good thing would be that our district would become an Abbott District and we might get some $ from Trenton. When the first shovel is put in the ground Dr. O'Malley will put in his resignation and move on because he will lose his quest for increased test scores. These low income units will not go to outstanding single moms who just need a helping hand. These units will go to crack heads, drug dealers and gang members who work the system. Thanks, Greg Cannon, for making the motion. This may be your first and last political job.

Anonymous said...

"The point is an undesirable neighborhood is poised to be build that will have a huge impact on the environment, the police force (because I do believe that this type of building will increase the drug and gang problem we already have)"

WOW! Can we say RACIST?

Anonymous said...

Not RACIST, just REALIST. That's exactly what's gonna happen if it goes through.

speaking the truth doesn't make you a racist said...

I know YOU can say RACIST. Because that's always the first word out of the mouths of people like you when someone speaks the truth about matters such as this topic.

Joeys a politician how about you said...

Is Joey Warren responsbile for GIVING MILLIONS TO HIS CONNECTED AND CORRUPT BUDDIES LIKE NORMAN KAUFF?

Is Joey Warren responsible for voting on a RUSHED THRU BY NORMAN KAUFF APPROVAL TO BUILD PROJECTS TO REWARD HIS FRIENDS WITH MILLIONS IN FEES AND STUDY FEES, ENGINEERING AND LEGAL FEES?

Is Joey Warren the one who went to the council meeting and told them that this will significantly hurt and overburden the school system already straining under funding restrictions and voter dispaapproval? Yes he did.

Did Joey Warren point out the corruption from top to bottom that this rushed, back door the all too typical scumbag political approval mess that Norman Kauff does over and over again?

So what did you geniuses who point to Joey Warren as a politician do when the council voted to screw the citizens and fill the pockets of Norman Kauff and his allegiant and faithful politicians, all on the backs of the County Road residents even when they came out in huge numbers?

So much for the man many of us thought Fred Tagliarini was. Such a disappointment he and all of the others are. How much are they paying all of you political scum to do the bidding of Norman Kauff?

Anonymous said...

Well, Joey Warren has never proven any of those allegations. Not a scintilla of proof has ever been offered on the blog. Just a bunch of rumors and exaggerations.

Joey Warren is a no good politican and lies like all the rest of them.

If he has the guts, let him put the video of the entire hearing online for all to see. I'd rather see the full thing for myself rather than just a soundbite which was clearly designed to inflame emotion.

Only by watching the full video can be learn the truth. And I would rather see the truth instead of being spoonfed soundbites that have been handpicked by Joey Warren to further his personal political ambitions.

Joey is a lying politician with his own political agenda. Anyone who can't see that has their head in the sand.

Only scumbags protect Kauff said...

Only a few defend Norman Kauff. I for one am glad that those people who are obviously truth deficient have access to a computer so as to put their deficient rantings on the blog, even if they are so inept and so easily gullable that they can only protect a man like Norman Kauff in their protect corruption at any cost delusions.

Anonymous said...

I find it amusing that as soon as one call Joey out for what he is, a politician, that person automatically becomes a "Kauff Defender" Just so you know, I don't vote for democrats either, but that doesn't change the fact that Mr. Warren is a politician. Some of you should check yourself on the race card bs too. Just because someone states what is not politically correct, but is true doesn't mean they wear sheets on the weekends.

WE ARE COMING FOR YOU KAUFF said...

Racism, corruption, ??? political friends, corrupt politicians, not listening to the people you are sworn to serve, corrupt developmental approvals, excessive fees and questionable legal services to the Kauff connected. It all leads back to one man in Aberdeen, he runs the whole show.

NORMAN KAUFF ESQUIRE

If you deny any of the above is true then you must have either


just came in from idiotville

just got your check from Kauff

think all politicians never lie

took the brown acid @ woodstock

live on Justice Lane by Kauff

voted for the nightmare Obama

glad the projects are going there
and not by your house and family



The list goes on if you don't know deep down in your heart that this old corrupt ptiful man runs the whole show in Aberdeen.

Time for Kauff to be exposed.

We are coming for you Kauff.

Fred you and the rest are complicit

Anonymous said...

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He's coming Fred and all the rest said...

If I was Norman Kauff i think i would start to really worry. If not hold the F on. It is going to be a scary ride. Where did i put that number for the reporter from the Asbury Park Press.

This will be the message for the next council meeting to all the reporters and news stations i can contact.

Come one come all to the greatest show on earth.

The outing of corrupt powerbroker #1 in Aberdeen Norman Kauff Esquire

You've been warned Freddy.

We got to the one guy you all should fear to come out for us.

??????????????????????????????????

You know who it is and he is pissed
off and fed up that you are all underlings, instead of leaders.

You and all the rest have had your chances. He will do what is right and when he stands up all of you are going to say holy shit.

No it's not the Pope.

No it's not the Chief Rabbi.

No i's not the Iman.

No it's not Buddah

But he is coming to expose all of you for your deaf, dumb and blind allegiance to Norman Kauff Esq.

The price you will soon pay for all of you blindly following the most corrupt man in Aberdeen will be severe and late in coming. But the time for the salvation of Aberdeen has arrived.

Get ready!

He's coming!

Dear Lord I baseach you said...

Dear God please bring salavation to the oppressed taxpayers of Aberdeen and a pox on the house of Kauff. Old man your time has arrived. Take a good look around as life is quickly passing you by. The truth shall set you free Norman and the truth is coming.

Anonymous said...

I've been listening to this blog's insane rantings of "They are coming to get Kauff" for over three years now.

Frankly its getting tiring. No one takes this blog seriously because it has yet to achieve a single result.

Hell, every election that has occured since the launching of this blog and has resulted in a victory directly opposite to the position which the people on here have taken. This includes the school board election of just last week!

What do all these anti-aberdeener victories tell you? Just that you are all a bunch of irrelevant yahhoos and no one takes your threats seriously.

Please keep it up though because we all laugh at you on a daily basis. This blog is most definitely a source of regular amusement.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH said...

THE LAUGHTER IS SOON TO STOP.

WE PROMISE YOU.

SO KEEP IDOLIZING AND CAPITULATING.

WHEN IT HAPPENS, AND IT WILL HAPPEN
YOU CAN EAT YOUR WORDS, YOUR ELECTIONS AND MORE. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE MAN OR WOMAN TO STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH.

ENOUGH!

Aberdeener said...

My $50 flip only recorded 22 minutes of the meeting when the drive became fully loaded but here it is.

Anonymous said...

Mr.Warren, will you be going to the next Town Council meeting to follow up on all of your findings?